Matt Ridley is a writer, biologist & Rational Optimist. He joins me to talk about his views on science, economics, innovation and how they apply to Bitcoin.

Matt Ridley Links:

• Website: mattridley.co.uk
• Twitter @mattwridley
• Book: How Innovation Works

Sponsors:

• Kraken 
• Coinfloor.co.uk
• SwanBitcoin.com
• Unchained Capital

Stephan Livera links:

• Show notes and website 
• Follow me on twitter @stephanlivera
• Subscribe to the podcast
• Patreon @stephanlivera