In this episode of Arroyo Grande, Raymond Arroyo sits down with renowned presidential historian and author Talmage Boston for a deep, candid conversation about the greatest leaders in American history — and what we can learn from them today.

From Washington’s quiet strength to Lincoln’s mercy, Jefferson’s imagination, and Reagan’s optimism, Talmage shares the leadership traits that shaped a nation — and still have power in our personal and professional lives. Raymond also shares insights from a recent visit to the White House, offering a rare behind-the-scenes look at the Oval Office and the symbolism that surrounds it.

Based on Boston’s acclaimed book, How the Best Did It: Leadership Lessons from Our Top Presidents, this episode dives into:
🔹 The personal flaws that made these presidents human — and powerful
🔹 Why relationships were their greatest strength
🔹 How past leaders shaped public sentiment without losing their soul
🔹 Surprising stories about Trump, FDR, JFK, and Teddy Roosevelt

If you’re a student of history, a lover of leadership, or just curious about what makes a president great, this one’s for you.

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