Author and science journalist, Annalee Newitz joins Felix Salmon and Emily Peck to talk about their new book Four Lost Cities: A Secret History of the Urban Age, electric vehicles and why the internet may be doomed. 

In the Slate Plus segment: The payments infrastructure in the US. 

Email: slatemoney@slate.com

Podcast production by Jessamine Molli.

Twitter: @felixsalmon, @EmilyRPeck

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