Today we are talking about a topic that has rocked a lot of good people.

We talk about Ravi Zacharias. The reporting by Christianity Today has been really exhaustive. Ravi's ministry has released a very honest and complete statement. Christian leaders respond to Ravi here.

We also talk about Hillsong New York Pop Pastor Carl Lentz. His sexual sin and fall from ministry. Carl was always controversial and popular with the world.

This is a very honest discussion about how do we respond when people like this fall away.

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