Another start to fire season, another reminder that we are living in a new, far more destructive normal. On this edition of KCBS In Depth, we discuss why this new normal is the result of some pretty abnormal fire management in California, and what it might take to bring our wildlands back to a more natural, fire resilient state. 

Guests:

• Bill Stewart, a forestry specialist with UC Berkeley and the co-director of Berkeley Forests
• Malcolm North, a forest ecologist with the US Forest Service and a professor at UC Davis

Host: Keith Menconi