In this eye-opening episode, Mike Belsito sits down with Jason Fried, CEO of 37 Signals, to discuss their revolutionary "Once" family of products. Fried explains how 37 Signals is challenging the dominant SaaS model by reviving the concept of paying once to own software forever. The conversation includes the (re-)launch of Campfire, a group chat tool, and Writebook, a simple online book publishing platform, both offered under this unique model of "you host it, you own it."Listeners will gain insights into the rationale behind this bold move, including the technical challenges of self-hosted software and the potential for customers to modify and build upon the products they purchase. Fried also shares his thoughts on software pricing, the importance of business viability, and the luxury of offering free products. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in alternative business models and the future of software distribution.INDUSTRY: The Product Conference: Join hundreds of Product Managers and Product Leaders this September 23-25, 2024 for INDUSTRY. Save $100 when you use the code Rocketship. Or, use the code RocketshipVIP before August 1st -- and double your discount (and receive more bonuses!)Gigantic: Upskill your team with real-world, practical video-based training on topics like Product Strategy, Product Leadership, AI for Product Managers, and more.Rocketship.FM is brought to you by Evergreen Podcasts.