About this conversation: Dr Paul Elias Alexander PhD is a Canadian independent scientist and a former Trump administration official at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) during the COVID-19 pandemic. Paul was recruited from his part-time, position at McMaster University to serve as an aide to HHS assistant secretary for public affairs Michael Caputo in March 2020. In that role, Paul argued with federal scientists and public health agencies to adopt a more pragmatic and orthodox approach to the "pandemic". Within the Trump Administration, Paul advocated protecting the high-risk individuals first and allowing healthy low-risk individuals to live normally and be exposed harmlessly to the virus to develop natural immunity. Paul was opposed to isolation of young children, school closures, lockdowns and face mask mandates. Paul's opinions and advice went at loggerheads with those of Fauci and co. Paul was threatened that he would be sacked if he did not resign. Paul has written about his time in the Trump administration and the shenanigans going on behind the scenes (link below). Paul has an incredibly popular Substack with over 38000 readers (link below). I hope you enjoy the conversation. Links Substack Paul Alexander Substack Book Presidential Takedown: How Anthony Fauci, the CDC, NIH, and the WHO Conspired to Overthrow President Trump IMPORTANT NOTICE Following my suspension from work 10 weeks ago I had lost 80% of my income. I have now been suspended again for simply posting a clip of one of my podcasts on my Instagram account. I am now totally dependent on the support of my listeners. If you value my podcasts, please support the show so that I can continue to speak up by choosing one or both of the following options - ⁠Buy me a coffee⁠ If you want to make a one-off donation. Join my Substack To access additional content, you can upgrade to paid from just £3.50 a month Doc Malik Merch Store⁠ Check out my amazing freedom merch To sponsor the Doc Malik Podcast contact us at ⁠hello@docmalik.com⁠  About Doc Malik: Orthopaedic surgeon Ahmad Malik is on a journey of discovery when it comes to health and wellness. Through honest conversations with captivating individuals, Ahmad explores an array of topics that profoundly impact our well-being and health. You can follow us on social media, we are on the following platforms: ⁠Twitter Ahmad⁠ | ⁠Twitter Podcast⁠ | ⁠Instagram Ahmad⁠ | ⁠Instagram Podcast