Jen Hatmaker was famously married with children until she discovered she wasn’t. Chosen by producer Tammy Stedman as her favorite conversation of Year One, here’s Kelly and her friend Jen talking candidly about shock, tangled up losses of all kinds (financial, emotional security, sense of identity, futures you were counting on…) and the things you learn on the bounce back. This episode features the poem, “The Women Who Walk Us Home” by poet Kate Baer. If you love listening to Jen, you might also like hearing from Cecily Strong.

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