Are we following the times? Leadership and situational awareness are not part of maritime education. If we want to achieve our goals to become sustainable, then we need the right people. So many things have to change for us to become seriously competitive with other industries. We need to target very young children so that we can become part of their dreams. Listen to Camilla Westergaard, one of the young people who dares to speak up. Our conversation involves a few answers to our challenges, and maybe we can spark you to develop a few more. Please give us a shoutout on social media, and we are ready to continue this conversation online. Thank you for listening.