Dave is revisiting some of his favorite episodes and interviews for his ‘Best of Dave Chang Show’ series. In this episode, Dave Arnold joins Dave and Chris to talk about fat washing, which leads to a conversation about the merits of originality and innovation in the culinary world. Dave Arnold deciphers fancy-sounding bartending techniques and describes the “bar test” he uses to determine whether a bar’s cocktails are worth ordering. Plus: an all-time rant about foams on cocktails, and top five fruits, including the best pears money can buy.

Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying

Guest: Dave Arnold

Producer: Victoria Valencia, Gabi Marler, and Euno Lee

Additional Production Supervision: Cory McConnell

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