Ben West is a mental health campaigner who survived an unimaginable loss.

In 2018, he lost his older brother Sam to suicide and in this special episode to mark Mental Health Awareness week, Ben talks about his relationship with Sam, saying goodbye and the carrying on his legacy. 

In this conversation, Jess and Ben discuss the different stages of grief, our fight or flight in the modern world and self-compassion. Plus, why carers of people living with mental health conditions need support too.

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Trigger Warning: This episode contains discussions of suicide and self-harm.

If you or someone you know is affected by the issues surrounding the conversation, you can access information and support online.

If you are struggling with your mental health, you can visit www.samaritans.org or call them for free at 116 123. 

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