I need to find the right audio, and I did. One of our segments - Floyd and I - with our now departed, jovial pop culture guru Jeffy McGee. It's around the 22:00 mark of this episode. Before that time with Jeff... I wish I had proof to solidify my I TOLD YOU THIS WOULD HAPPEN! Credit to Promedica, and some things we could consider changing in our lives. Because we (often, but not always) can, and because it may keep us alive, or save us some healthcare expenses.