Ian Bothwell is not a household name but is someone who has been quiet peacemaking in south Armagh for almost half a century.  At the height of the Troubles he felt a draw to defy some of the barriers and fears in his own context to move from his home in Amagh to Crossmaglen.  Ian and his wife Pauline set up a charity that brought care to people through anti-poverty work, prisoner support, youth work and personal encounter, by setting up a market stall in the town.  In this conversation Ian opens up about losses he suffered that challenged him to 'let other narratives in' and how that hasn't always been a path that has been easy or understood.