While Dave and George are interviewing Tommy Skinner ( This Flippin Podcast) about Fathom, he tells us a story about two different conversion kits he imported from Germany. The kits are Lady Death and Space Riders. These retheme kits were available in the late 70’s and early 80’s. Dave gives a shout out to artist Joel DeGuzman. The discussion turns to playfield manufacturing and Deeproot finds its way into the conversation. This is a mini episode that will not only inform but entertain.