Nate Hagens is the host of the podcast the great simplification that has blown up as a dire and well researched lense to our current predicament as a species. The podcast is a must listen for anyone trying to make sense of our wold that takes a trans-disciplinary lens on our challenges. From economy to biology, chemistry and physics. If you are new to the topic take a look at the animated shorts that will give you a nice overview of this frame. Or dive into the youtube channel right away. This conversation is timely and somber. And yet it contains hope. The frame of a this being a story of a species finding a huge amount of fossile carbon and throwing a 2 century party and the need to now gently come off it sums it up in one way. The take away that both Nate and Amit, both spending quite some time in existential risk frameworks, have the feeling that the understanding of the times we are in create some sort of agency and a different focus altogether. Nate took a break form his touring the world and speaking to governments about the last 20 years of his work to record this. Enjoy! Host: Amit Paul.