What role can AI play in international diplomacy and national security? In this episode, Reid and Aria sit down with Anja Manuel, a former diplomat, author, and one of the leading voices in AI and foreign policy. She has the unique ability to bridge the gaps between technology, policy and diplomacy. They discuss international AI governance, China, potential threats of bio-terrorism, and the strategic decisions that the US and its allies must make to navigate this complex landscape of innovation with regulation.For more info on the podcast and transcripts of all the episodes, visit https://www.possible.fm/podcast/ For the referenced Possible episode featuring Kim Stanley Robinson: https://link.chtbl.com/8YMsBlzgTopics:1:21 - Episode introduction 3:44 - Hellos and intros 4:38 - Where the U.S. and China rank in the Great AI Race6:09 - Deepseek explainer7:27 - Which technologies the U.S. should prioritize9:05 - Why it’s important for the U.S. to stay in the lead10:41 - How to maintain that lead16:27 - Current examples of AI in national security work 18:30 - Impediments to further integrating AI20:13 - How to connect national security to cutting edge technology 24:35 - The potential risks to incorporating AI28:50 - Midroll ad 28:55 - How to stay safe against the risks 32:05 - The helpfulness of AI Safety Institutes33:25 - International treaties for AI36:11 - The current U.S.-China relationship38:50 - How to return to a more positive relationship41:28 - The economic race 43:25 - Anja’s advice for the new administration45:01 - Key players and swing states50:24 - How to make a cyber treaty work 52:57 - Rapid-fire questions Possible is an award-winning podcast that sketches out the brightest version of the future—and what it will take to get there. Most of all, it asks: what if, in the future, everything breaks humanity's way? Tune in for grounded and speculative takes on how technology—and, in particular, AI—is inspiring change and transforming the future. Hosted by Reid Hoffman and Aria Finger, each episode features an interview with an ambitious builder or deep thinker on a topic, from art to geopolitics and from healthcare to education. These conversations also showcase another kind of guest: AI. Whether it's Inflection’s Pi, OpenAI’s ChatGPT or other AI tools, each episode will use AI to enhance and advance our discussion about what humanity could possibly get right if we leverage technology—and our collective effort—effectively.