On this episode of Swan Signal Live, we are joined by Alex Epstein and Marty Bent. Alex is a philosopher and energy expert and author of the New York Times bestseller The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels and Fossil Future. Marty Bent is host of the Tales from the Crypt podcast, Editor in Chief of Marty's Bent, a daily newsletter about Bitcoin, and he is also part of the team at Great American Mining.0:00 - Intro.4:00 - Fossil fuels and climate change.9:15 - Marty and Alex's backgrounds.18:39 - Breaking down the steelman argument30:10 - Perception vs reality. (Fossil fuel pilling)37:05 - Fiat being the root of the problem.42:46 - Understanding biocentrism.46:35 - "C.O.P." Conference.52:30 - Debunking opposing views.1:04:02 - Bitcoin mining.1:12:30 - Alex's views on bitcoin.Connect with our guests:https://twitter.com/AlexEpsteinhttps://twitter.com/MartyBentRead Alex's Book:https://www.amazon.com/dp/1591847443/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_H737FRHPSBYWCDR3VX01Listen to Tales from the Crypt:https://tftc.io/podcasts/Sign up for Marty's Bent:https://tftc.io/martys-bent/Swan Bitcoin is the best way to accumulate Bitcoin with automatic recurring buys and instant buys from $10 to $10 million. Get started in just 5 minutes. Your first $10 purchase is on us: https://swanbitcoin.com/yt Connect with Swan on social media:Twitter: https://twitter.com/SwanBitcoin​​​Telegram: https://t.me/swansignal​​​LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/swanbitcoinSwan Signal Live and Swan Lounge are a production of Swan Bitcoin, the best way to accumulate Bitcoin through automatic recurring buys at https://swanbitcoin.com​​​.Are you a high net worth individual or do you represent corporation that might be interested in learning more about Bitcoin? Swan Private guides corporations and high net worth individuals toward building generational wealth with Bitcoin. Find out more at https://swanbitcoin.com/privateGet your free ebook or audiobook copy of "Inventing Bitcoin" here: https://swanbitcoin.com/freebookWe also have the book available en español, y puede descargar su copia en https://swanbitcoin.com/librogratisGet your free ebook copy of "21 Lessons" here:https://swanbitcoin.com/21lessonsJoin our Swan Force, our referral program, and get paid to recruit new Bitcoiners: https://swanbitcoin.com/enlist Swan Private helps HNWI, companies, trusts, and other entities go beyond legacy finance with BItcoin. Learn more at swan.com/private.   Put Bitcoin into your IRA and own your future. Check out swan.com/ira.Swan Vault makes advanced Bitcoin security simple. Learn more at swan.com/vault.