Joining Cam & Ali in the bathroom are Aussie icons, Richard Glover and Debra Oswald. They talk about why they never got married, the joy of their first grandson, and how things that happen in your childhood can affect the way you act in a relationship. CW: This episode contains discussions of paedophilia and abuse LINKS Follow Debra Oswald @deboswaldoz Follow Richard Glover @richardgloveroz Buy 'The Family Doctor': https://bit.ly/TheFamilyDoctor  Follow Cam @Camerondaddo  Follow Ali @Alidaddo Follow Nova Podcasts @novapodcastsofficial Got a question for Cam & Ali? You can email them at separatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au  CREDITS Hosts: Cameron Daddo and Alison Brahe-DaddoGuests: Debra Oswals and Richard GloverManaging Producer: Elle BeattieProducer and Editor: Amy Kimball Find more great podcasts like this at novapodcasts.com.au Separate Bathrooms would like to acknowledge the Gadigal people of the Eora nation, the First Peoples of the land on which we work. We acknowledge that sovereignty was never ceded, and recognise their enduring connections to country, knowledge and stories. We pay our respects to Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all First Nations people listening.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.