On Episode 204 of You, Me, Empathy, Rachel and Derek, of Your Favorite Heretics, and I explore Christian deconstruction, the toxicity of forgiveness, religious and church trauma, and making peace with uncertainty and befriending mystery.

Rachel and Derek are a wife and husband duo who are creating a safe space for deconstruction and recovery from church trauma. They run the popular Instagram account and brand, Your Favorite Heretics.

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