We've got a bit of an echo issue in today's episode, but I think you'll be able to manage through it and enjoy our visit with Kaitlin Durbin. She did fantastic work in her series called Under Fire. Kaitlin took a microscope to the neighborhoods most afflicted by the all the gun violence.  She also has some news about last summer's true crime Toledo podcast of hers called Code 18. She'll be releasing new content later this week.  We wish Kaitlin luck as she moves on to cover county government for Cleveland.com. Take note, we're losing another fine journalist. This is bad. Don't hold her love of mushrooms over her. Leave that to me. Also, I had a mental health/alcohol assessment this morning as I search for a new therapist. Alex will need therapy if she can't lock down the Glass City Metropark's pavilion for her wedding on Friday. 10.1.22 looms.