Jordan Harbinger runs one of the most successful podcasts in the world, "The Jordan Harbinger Show." The journey that took him there isn't so simple and these days Jordan cringes at the online "experts" that advertise sure-fire ways to rise to the top. On today's show, John and Jordan discuss the similarities of their stories, the potential toxicity of influencers' advice, Jordan's early Wall Street career, his TWO kidnapping stories, and how he turned a small-time pick-up-artistry show into the podcasting icon his show is today.  Follow John on social media! @JohnRoa @BetweenUs_Pod A Jam Street Media Production

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