Kara Swisher is the executive editor of Recode and the recipient of the inaugural Esther Wojcicki Lectureship. She’s joined by Farhad Manjoo of the New York Times for a debate on the growth of the top tech companies, and whether or not they can be reeled in before it’s too late.

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