Please join us at patreon.com/tortoiseshack The saying goes that 'there's no art in money, but there's also no money in art.' Joining me to discuss the contract inequalities Irish artists, actors, creators experience in an industry that is heavily subsidised by the taxpayer, is actor and President with irishequity.ie, Gerry O'Brien. We talk a little about his roles in films like Veronica Guerin, Pirates of the Caribbean and Reign of Fire via the prism of the differing employment rights he had and the contracts that make making a living nearly impossible. Please join us at patreon.com/tortoiseshack