Pat hosts Alex and Ben Townsend, their midwife, Jackie Griggs, and doula, Debbie Hull to share the story of when they discovered their little darling was breech and the decisions they made for their birth, including the lovely surprise ending!

Jackie Griggs, CNM, is a Certified Nurse Midwife who has been practicing in the Houston/Beaumont area for the past 35 years. She is a mom of 5 grown sons, 3 born at home with the help of midwives; two grandchildren and a new grand baby just recently. She has helped mainly with