3. You Know What That Means

The Karen & Ellen Letters

EpisodeSep 21, 202329m

3. You Know What That Means

The Karen & Ellen Letters

EpisodeSep 21, 202329m

In 2006, Josh begins to find evidence that three of the letter-writers actually exist.In 1988, the girls celebrate a milestone, Karen and Mark find themselves at an impasse, and Mark finds joy in an unlikely place.The Karen & Ellen Letters are found correspondence.Narrated and produced by: Josh Hallmark.Starring: Sara Stapleton, Sara Kitcher, Jeff Powell, and Benjamin Watkins.This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / www.bothand.fyiFor an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothandMusic by:EverythingTopaz WhiteRetro ChillwaveDroid BishopChannel 13IcarusNeon LightsPatreon producers: Adrienne Aiello, Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annette L, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Dana Keith, Dr. Jill Cooper, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, John O’Leary, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boulukos, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Mike Sherman, Nicole & Dennis Henry, Sarah King, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan Taylor, Karli McNutt, Lana, Sara Cee, Lydia Fiedler

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In 2005, I received a stack of found, hand-written letters between two (stupid?) young women and their (long-suffering?) landlord. That gift would send me on a fifteen-year search for the truth. It was a comedic investigation that demanded some pretty complex interrogation: Who owns a story? How honest is our nostalgia? What does it mean to be a difficult woman? How do we engage in sexism and patriarchal gender roles? And, of course, does gas smell like avocados? And are allegations made by alligators?

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