Charles Kenny, senior fellow at the Center for Global Development, joins Felix Salmon and Emily Peck to talk about his new book The Plague Cycle: The Unending War Between Humanity and Infectious Disease, vaccine distribution, and how the COVID-19 pandemic is affecting the global economy long term. 

Email: slatemoney@slate.com

Podcast production by Jessamine Molli.

Twitter: @felixsalmon, @EmilyRPeck

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