President Trump is trying to shut down the U.S. Department of Education—or at least gut it as much as possible—cut off funding and shift some required programs to other departments. There are already multiple lawsuits filed to block the move, which critics say would have a devastating and disproportionate impact on lower-income families and the students who need the most support in school.

For more on this, KCBS Radio anchors Patti Reising and Bret Burkhart spoke with Natalie Wheatfall-lum, Director of TK-12 Policy at EdTrust West, an Oakland-based organization that advocates for racial equity in education in California.