Tony Sewell is a British educational consultant, author, and former chair of the Commission on Race and Ethnic Disparities, known for his work on education reform and his controversial report on racial inequality in the UK. In this interview we discuss why Britain's racial and social inequality debates are more about class than race. He unpacks the misconceptions surrounding racism, the flaws in the education system, and how family structure impacts outcomes. In this eye-opening conversation, Tony explains how nuanced, data-driven policies can better address inequality and improve opportunities for all.