#74 | Why “Man Up” Is a Lie — And How Positive Masculinity Heals LGBTQ and Cisgender Men Alike
The principal theme of this podcast episode centers upon the concept of positive masculinity and its transformative potential in dismantling the pervasive cycle of toxic masculinity. Our esteemed guest, Mac McGregor, elucidates on the intricacies of gender expectations and socialization, advocating for a paradigm shift that embraces vulnerability and authenticity in all individuals, irrespective of their gender identity. We delve into the historical context of masculinity and explore how traditional constructs can often hinder personal growth and interpersonal relationships. Through heartfelt anecdotes and insightful dialogue, Mac articulates the necessity of fostering a supportive environment that encourages men and masculine individuals to engage in meaningful discussions about their feelings and experiences. As we navigate this profound journey together, it becomes increasingly clear that the path towards healthier models of masculinity is not only beneficial for men but for society as a whole.
What is Positive Masculinity? Today I am joined by the gender sensei, Mac McGregor, and he opens the conversation about what toxic and positive masculinity is. Growing up in the bible belt of America, Mac knew that he just didn’t fit the magic gender letter he was assigned at birth. After a successful career as a martial artist, Mac now spreads the word about Positive Masculinity and how gender is a spectrum with many ways to express your gender. Join Heather and Mac as they pull apart positive masculinity, how it impacts all of us and how unpacking the social conditioning of what gender means is where the real work happens, even within the LGBTQIA+ community.
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About our guest:
Mac McGregor – the “Gender Sensei” – is a speaker who works to educate and train various corporations, colleges, and groups on topics concerning diversity, gender, healthy masculinity, and being true to themselves. He is a dedicated, heartfelt activist and educator who focuses every part of his existence on creating a world where people can feel free to be their authentic selves.
He has been a keynote speaker at many events including Mayo Clinic, and many colleges, organizations, and conferences. This includes the University of Washington where he is a guest instructor each semester who discusses the complexities of gender, transgender, and gender non-conforming. Mac has also made appearances on Ripley’s Believe it or Not, The Learning Channel, The Discovery Channel, the 700 Club, Univision, People Magazine, and many more. He also writes for the Huffington Post, The Good Men Project, Seattle Gay News, Unite Magazine, and other publications.
Mac’s experience prior to transition was that of a successful female athlete, champion competitor, and business owner. This experience shaped him to become a guiding figure for women’s rights, specifically closing the pay gap and providing equal opportunity for those that are gender variant. He was a former US karate team member, inducted into the Martial Arts Hall of Fame as a competitor and as a Master Teacher. He has extensive training in conflict resolution and arbitration through being a certified coach and referee through the AAU and U.S. Olympic committees.
The mayor appointed Mac as a Seattle City Commissioner in 2011 and he served until 2016. Mac is on the Washington state council for PFLAG and on the Seattle Police Department LGBT advisory board. Here, he developed policy and training around dealing with the transgender community, which has been used by the US Border Patrol. He continuously speaks on panels and solo at numerous colleges, non-profit groups, and state and city governments on gender & sexuality. Mac teaches community SelfDefense to empower all people on a donation basis so that all have access. He is currently the Co-Chair of the Seattle Renter’s Commission appointed by the Seattle City Council.
He is also a multimedia talk show host of “The You Can Make a Difference Show” on Rainier Avenue Radio. In 2017 Mac ran for Seattle City Council and was the first transgender person ever to be on a ballot in Washington State. Mac is the Founder and Executive Director of “Positive Masculinity”, a nonprofit that works to dismantle toxic masculinity and helps masculine people work to create a healthier model of masculinity for all people.
How to connect with Mac:
https://www.positivemasculinitynow.org/
TikTok- https://www.tiktok.com/@positivemasculinitynow/
Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/positivemasculinitynow/
FB Page- https://www.facebook.com/Positivemasc/
Takeaways:
- The concept of positive masculinity challenges traditional gender norms and expectations, promoting healthier emotional expression.
- Vulnerability is an essential aspect of the journey toward authentic self-expression for all individuals, regardless of gender identity.
- The dialogue surrounding masculinity within the LGBTQ community necessitates reflection on both toxic and traditional masculine behaviors.
- Engaging in conversations about masculinity can foster deeper connections between fathers and sons, enhancing familial relationships.
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More Human. More Kind. formerly Just Breathe: Parenting Your LGBTQ Teen explores connection, courage, and community for every concerned parent, mom, or ally navigating fear, grief, and bigotry with hope, resilience, and empathy. Through open-minded education, inclusive parenting guidance, and advocacy for mental health, safety, and a human first approach, we support LGBTQ youth and stand for human rights and social justice. More Human. More Kind. empowers listeners to shift their mindset, embrace activism and allyship, and lead with kindness, healing, and purpose.
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