const podcast = { episode: 238, title: 'Rise and Fall of JavaScript Libraries', topics: [ 'JavaScript', 'frameworks', 'accessibility' ], guest: 'Chris Ferdinandi' hosts: [ 'Craign Shoemaker', 'Ward Bell' ]};Recording date: 6/1/2023John Papa @John_PapaWard Bell @WardBellDan Wahlin @DanWahlinCraig Shoemaker @craigshoemakerChris Ferdinandi @ChrisFerdinandiBrought to you byAG GridIdeaBladeResources:Go Make Things Newsletter & Morezachleat.comReactPreactWhat Is Server-side Rendering And How Does It Improve Site Speed?What is “Vanilla JavaScript”?Timejumps00:29 Welcome00:47 Introducing Chris Ferdinandi03:30 Why are JavaScript frameworks bad for developers?07:04 Sponsor: Ag Grid08:12 If you take JavaScript out, aren't you limiting apps?22:01 Sponsor: IdeaBlade23:01 How do you minimize your use of JavaScript?28:38 Accessibility and frameworks44:18 Final thoughtsPodcast editing on this episode done by Chris Enns of Lemon Productions.