How do we move from a faith that is shallow and superficial to one that is rooted in relationship? What does it take to take a prayer life that feels like a duty and make it into one of delight? Author, teacher, and poet Jackie Hill Perry joins Juli to talk about the inspiration behind her latest book, “Upon Waking”, and why God isn’t looking at the amount of time we spend with Him so much as He’s looking at the condition of our hearts. Guest: Jackie Hill Perry Website: jackiehillperry.com Instagram: @jackiehillperry Book: Upon Waking by Jackie Hill Perry YouTube: With the Perrys   Register for Reclaim 2.0   Java with Juli with Dr. Juli Slattery – Christian Discussions on Marriage, Sex and Singleness.