Ulrich Baer talks to Kim about the process and phenomenon of witnessing, which creates collective acknowledgement, understanding, and responsibility for trauma. Among other works, he talks about Shoshana Felman and Dori Laub’s book Testimony. In his discussion of witnessing with respect to our present political moment, he talks about the murder of George Floyd and the following global reckoning.Ulrich Baer is University Professor at New York University where he teaches literature and photography, and writes frequently about photography, art, literature, and other subjects. A graduate of Harvard and Yale, he has been awarded Guggenheim, Getty, and Humboldt fellowship.Image: Detail from ‘Girl with a Yellow Bird’ by Hale Woodruff.Music used in promotional material: “Leaving for Chicago” by Rest You Sleeping Giant. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices