Can you be a Christian and an anarchist? In this deep-dive conversation, Dr. Fernando Morales brings together two Nostr personalities from opposite ends of the theological spectrum to explore the radical intersection of faith and freedom: Stella, a devout Catholic church sexton and choir member, and The Beave, a Protestant anarchist and contributor to Get Citadel. Fresh from his own journey from atheism back to belief, Morales moderates a fascinating clash of perspectives on whether the Bible is ultimately an anarchist text. The Beave argues that when Israel demanded a king in 1 Samuel, God warned them that human government equals taxation, conscription, and exploitation—that true Christians recognize "no kings but Christ" and owe allegiance only to divine authority. Stella counters with the Catholic view of natural law, subsidiarity, and the necessity of community, warning that abrupt anarchy risks real human suffering while emphasizing that Christians are "pilgrims" building parallel structures of care. Together they dissect: How to actually read the Bible (literal study vs. liturgical tradition) Whether "AnCapistan" requires a Christian population to function The mechanics of peaceful secession and building parallel economies with Bitcoin Why the American experiment failed—and where "Version 2" might emerge From the role of the Mass to the philosophy of hard money, this is a conversation about sovereignty—spiritual, monetary, and political—that challenges both religious orthodoxy and statist assumptions. Whether you're a believer, a Bitcoiner, or simply searching for frameworks beyond the current system, this episode offers a rare synthesis of theology and practical anarchy. AFFILIATE LINKS: Bullbitcoin, get a 0.25% discount on the Bitcoin price when you sign up: https://app.bullbitcoin.com/registration/fernandom