Richie is joined by Giovanni Di Stefano. Giovanni is notorious, controversial but also brilliant. He is known internationally as The Devil's Advocate. One way or another, he has represented or advised some of the most infamous and high profile defendants in history. He came on today's show to discuss why he believes that Lucy Letby - the nurse convicted of murdering seven babies and attempting to murder six more - should be released immediately. Giovanni doesn't know whether Letby is innocent or guilty, but he tells Richie why he is convinced her conviction is unsafe. In a fascinating conversation, the Devil's Advocate discusses his involvement in the cases of Jeremy Bamber and Harold Shipman. 

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