Author, poet and educator Clint Smith joins host James Howell on today's episode of Maybe I'm Amazed to talk about the still very present impacts of slavery in modern society, and why the concept of slavery is much more recent in history than we generally believe it to be.

Clint Smith is the author of #1 NY Times Bestseller How the Word is Passed: A Reckoning with the History of Slavery Across America, a book of poetry called Counting Descent, and is a staff writer at the Atlantic.