James Holland, author of The Savage Storm: The Battle for Italy 1943 and host of the We Have Ways of Making You Talk podcast, joins the show to talk about the Allied campaign in Italy.

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    •      02:08 Introduction 

    •      04:23 “No greater moment of human drama…”

    •      11:08 Why go into Italy at all?

    •      18:24 Mission to Rome  

    •      29:33 Baytown and Avalanche

    •      32:10 Salerno

    •      36:25 rethinking Mark Clark

    •      40:50 Very hard fighting      

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