Exhausting, illuminating, filled with grace—that’s how the Notre Dame students in this episode described their college experience. In addition to talking to the kids, Kelly sat down with two professors who love their work, Dr. Kathy Cummings (winner of the 2021 Sheedy Award for Excellence in Teaching) who teaches history and Dr. Sam Newlands, a philosopher who studios hope, optimism and transformative experiences. This is a conversation for anyone wondering about the benefits of studying history and philosophy in an algorithmic world more automated by the day. Sharing episodes is easy and encouraged.

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