In this conversation, Dr. Todd A. Jacobs discusses the evolution of cloud security, the balance between compliance and actual security measures, and the importance of identity management in reducing spam and enhancing security. He emphasizes the need for businesses to understand the shared responsibility model in cloud environments and the limitations of compliance as a measure of security. Jacobs also shares insights from his experiences in the field, highlighting the importance of focusing on practical solutions rather than just technical fixes. ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★