This week Kara’s telling us about a couple of sweet old ladies who were….not at all sweet old ladies.There’s bonus content, ad-free episodes, and other perks on our Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/witchesmagicmurdermystery Podcast Store: https://witches-magic-murder-mystery-podcast-store.myshopify.com Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/WitchesMagicMurderMysteryPodcast Support our sponsors! This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at www.betterhelp.com/wmmm and get on your way to being your best self.Sources:  https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/ca-court-of-appeal/1267298.htmlhttps://www.ranker.com/list/black-widow-grandmas-california/ella-talkinhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10182775/New-podcast-details-two-old-ladies-killed-homeless-men-attempt-insurance-money.htmlhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10182775/New-podcast-details-two-old-ladies-killed-homeless-men-attempt-insurance-money.htmlhttps://medium.com/california-dreaming/helen-golay-and-olga-rutterschmidt-the-black-widow-murderers-449f3606f3abhttps://www.oxygen.com/black-widow-murders/crime-news/los-angeles-black-widow-murders-explainedAll Witches, Magic, Murder, & Mystery episodes are a mix of Kara and Megan’s personal thoughts and opinions in response to the information that is publicly available at the time of recording, as well as, in some cases, personal accounts provided by listeners. In regard to these self-reported personal accounts, there can be no assurance that the information provided is 100% accurate. If you love the Trash Witch art (see our Patreon or the Podcast store), Tiffini Scherbing of Scherbing Arts created her. Like her Scherbing Arts page on Facebook, or follow her on instagram at @scherbingarts76! She can create anything you need. TikTok: @wmmmpodcastInstagram: @witchesmagicmurdermysteryFacebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/465405701297488/Email all your weird stories: witchesmagicmurdermystery@gmail.comGet to know us better:              Kara: @many_adventures_of_kara on Instagram            Megan: @meganmakesjokes on TikTok, @megan_whitmer on Instagram WMMM PodcastP.O. Box 910674Lexington, KY 40591Music credit: Chloe’s Lullaby (podcast theme) by Robert Austin. Available on Spotify, Google Play, YouTube, Bandcamp, and Patreon! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices