Director of the Cork Life Centre, Don O'Leary came up from Cork to join me onstage for a very special live podcast. We discuss how a man who was arrested and imprisoned for treason goes on to be an educator and incredible advocate for children who have suffered Adverse Childhood Experiences. We discuss him receiving a terminal diagnosis and deciding to make the very most of his time. Don talks about his recent trip to deliver aid to Ukraine and what he'd do if he had 24hrs in the Dept of Education. A great man, a real activist and let's face it, a legend. But don't tell him I said so. Please join us at patreon.com/tortoiseshack