Mike talks with Sarah and Nippy who escaped the NXIVM cult and were featured in the HBO documentary, The Vow. They now host A Little Bit Culty podcast shining a light on cult-like groups and environments, and helping victims recover. We highly recommend Sarah's best selling book, Scarred, and her Ted talk, How To Spot a Cult.Support the showGet Mike's book: "A Billion Years: My Escape from a Life in the Highest Ranks of Scientology" on Amazon. Find me on X (Twitter): / mikerinder Instagram: / rindermike Facebook: / rindermike Visit the Mike Rinder store for merch -- t-shirts, hoodies, mugs, mousepads and more: ...