This is a discussion from the Princeton Scala Foundation conference that took place in April 2023 with the title, “The Transfiguration: Glory and Grace in the World”. I sat down with Margarita Mooney Clayton and iconographer and author Aidan Hart to discuss the Transfiguration of Christ, how God's glory fills the world, and that the ultimate goal of the spiritual life is encountering God face to face.Original YouTube version of this episode: https://youtu.be/J3u9jWeA6BM- A previous discussion I had with Aidan Hart - The Dance between Sacred and Secular: https://youtu.be/hzQkolwWkwE - My talk at the conference - The Role of Art in Identity: https://youtu.be/mfDm4VefkJg- Aidan Hart’s talk - Liturgical Art as Prophecy and Priesthood: https://youtu.be/07KxzJABskY- Playlist of all the talks at the event: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRZHnw30gpFeBFtZE-wsj5or0BdQtIMjh- Scala Foundation website: https://scalafoundation.org/- Aidan Hart's icons and books: https://aidanharticons.com/—Timestamps:00:00:00 - Preview00:00:45 - Intro music00:01:10 - Introduction00:01:58 - The value of images00:03:08 - Principles of liturgical art00:04:25 - The Nous00:05:57 - How do I know this isn't just imagination?00:07:32 - The Transfiguration and Light00:10:04 - The culmination of symbolism00:12:38 - Poetry and Typology00:13:46 - Clothes of glory / The Feast of Tabernacles00:16:17 - Anti-Symbolism00:17:09 - The point of symbols00:19:31 - Word/logoi00:21:48 - The basic elements of the Transfiguration icon00:24:27 - What are Moses and Elijah doing there?00:26:04 - Peter, James, and John00:27:29 - The sandal falling off00:30:03 - The person and the divinity of Christ00:32:26 - Divine Darkness00:35:12 - His garment is transfigured00:44:37 - The tension between extremes00:51:41 - Scala—💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🗣 Join The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 🔒 BECOME A PATRON Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos 📱 SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageauOur website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson.