Russell chats to Michael Shellenberger, founder of ‘Public’ on Substack, Twitter files journalist and the author of ‘Apocalypse Never’. Together they talk about the implications of Ireland's new online/hate speech bill, the psychology of censorship, and why democracy thrives on slow thinking. Plus, spirituality and the profound need for human connection in today's world, and 'Are we on the brink of an apocalyptic showdown?' 

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