My brother and I recorded this conversation back in 2018 when we had just got back from the World Cup in Russia, an incredible trip and a hell of a world cup despite the lack of sleep due to dad's snoring. We discuss  how Kaveh got started with video games at a very early age, picking up gaming super quickly and then going on to be better than me at Mario Kart..... for now...

I remember when I was in my 20's and had been playing in bands for years, then I stumbled up Kaveh's MySpace page and discovered he had been producing music online with rappers around the world, something I didn't even know was possible! Needles to say, I was blown away.

We also discuss spiders, be warned.