CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about overseeing some of the most popular news sites on the internet and how things may change in 2019.

In this episode: Artley's background at the New York Times and International Herald Tribune; the "complete chaos" of working at the Los Angeles Times; what actually works in digital news?; How CNN has changed its approach to covering President Trump's tweets; its relationships with social media companies; what it's like working under Trump's "enemy of the people" attacks; the speed of news; and how to earn the public's trust.

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