Just as air travel is picking back up again, problems are afoot: flights are being turned around, delayed, and even being forced to abort landings. All this is painting a picture of wider issues with the air traffic control system across the state and even the nation.

For more on this, KCBS Radio news anchors Pat Thurston and Bret Burkhart spoke with Mary Schiavo, CNN aviation analyst and former inspector general of the United States Department of Transportation.