Narelda Jacobs and Stevie Cruz-Martin grace Cam and Ali's virtual bathroom in the depths of Sydney lockdown. They talk about how they support each other's dreams, what needs to change in Australia, and the story of how they met that's straight out of a rom-com. LINKS Follow Narelda Jacobs @narelda_jacobs Follow Stevie Cruz-Martin @steviecruzmartin Watch The Tailings on SBS On Demand https://bit.ly/thetailings  Follow Cam @Camerondaddo  Follow Ali @Alidaddo Follow Nova Podcasts @novapodcastsofficial Got a question for Cam & Ali? You can email them at separatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au  CREDITS Hosts: Cameron Daddo and Alison Brahe-DaddoGuests: Narelda Jacobs and Stevie Cruz-MartinManaging Producer: Elle BeattieProducer and Editor: Amy Kimball Find more great podcasts like this at novapodcasts.com.au Separate Bathrooms would like to acknowledge the Gadigal people of the Eora nation, the First Peoples of the land on which we work. We acknowledge that sovereignty was never ceded, and recognise their enduring connections to country, knowledge and stories. We pay our respects to Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all First Nations people listening.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.