Lyn Ulbricht is Ross Ulbricht’s mother. Ross was the founder of Silk Road, who received a double life sentence plus 40 years without parole before being granted an unconditional pardon by President Trump after nearly 12 years of incarceration. Rather than stepping back after that hard-won victory, Lyn channeled her experience, platform, and network into founding MACS (Mothers Against Cruel Sentencing), a nonprofit dedicated to exposing the reality of excessive sentencing inside the U.S. justice system. At the Bitcoin Vegas Conference 2026, she joined me to share what it was like when Trump personally called to announce the pardon, how Ross is adjusting to life on the outside, why she sees Bitcoin colleagues still behind bars as prisoner of war  from a war declared over, and why the fight for justice is far from finished.→ Please like, comment, share & follow — to help me beat the suppressing algo's. Thank you!– SPONSORS –→ Access liquidity without selling your Bitcoin with Ledn — learn more at https://ledn.io/Efrat    → Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn→ Have you tried mining bitcoin? Stack sats directly to your wallet while saving on taxes with Abundant Mines: https://AbundantMines.com/Efrat - Claim your free month of hosting via this link– AFFILIATES –→ Check out BTC Prague: http://btcprg.me/EFRAT (code EFRAT = 10% off)→ Join me in these upcoming events & use code EFRAT for discounted tickets: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events→ Get 10% off on Augmented NAC to detox Spike protein, with the code YCXKQDK2 via this link: https://store.augmentednac.com/?via=efrat (Note, this is not medical advice, please consult your MD)→ Join me at Europe’s largest bitcoin conference - BTC Prague, June 11-13, 2026. Code EFRAT for 10% off: http://btcprg.me/EFRAT→ Be good to your eyes & health, and get the Daylight tablet - a healthier, more human-friendly computer, zero blue light & flicker. Use code EFRAT for $25 off: https://bit.ly/Efrat_daylight → Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with Expat Money, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat→ Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat– LINKS –Lyn on X: https://x.com/lyn_ulbricht MACS (Mothers Against Cruel Sentencing): https://mothersagainstcruelsentencing.org/ Efrat’s X: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat’s Channels: https://linktr.ee/efenigsonWatch on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat’s work: ⁠https://bit.ly/zap_efrat– CHAPTERS – 00:00 - Coming Up…01:12 - Introduction to Lyn Ulbricht03:55 - Bitcoin POWs: The War on Crypto Is Not Over06:37 - The Day Trump Called: Ross's Pardon10:34 - Founding MACS: Mothers Against Cruel Sentencing10:59 - Ad Break: Ledn & Trezor12:34 - Ross After Prison: Freedom & Healing15:12 - Cruel & Unusual: Ross's Sentence & the 8th Amendment17:53 - What’s MACS (Mothers Against Cruel Sentencing)22:12 - Beyond Ross: Sentencing Injustice Across America27:43 - The Prison Industrial Complex: Who Profits from Incarceration30:48 - Ad Break: Abundant Mines32:09 - Prisoners Prefer Torture Over Time in Prison35:21 - Crypto Prisoners & Prison Reform36:35 -Hope Comes From Faith, Miracles & Not Giving Up39:30 - Where to Follow Lyn