This week, we are joining forces with our friends at Penn’s Sunday School, the powerhouse podcast hosted by Las Vegas legend Penn Jillette, to release a crossover episode on both of our podcast feeds. Here is part one of my conversation with Penn and his co-host, Michael Goudeau. Part two will be up next Monday. (NOTE: This episode was recorded in February, prior to the coronavirus scare taking hold in Las Vegas and around the country.)