As the Home Secretary Priti Patel tells us to not to travel for Christmas, Welsh First Minister Mark Drakeford joins us for a frank conversation about the difficulties Wales is having getting Coronavirus under control.

And of course there's another Brexit update...and no, this one isn't decisive, either.

Studio Director: Ged Sudlow Producers: Ben Weisz, Lucy Boast, Frankie Tobi, Georgia Coan Editor: Dino Sofos